Thomas Townsend: PLD SIGNED! Laine rumor????

Seeing some things on Cbus boards and hearing from fans it seems something is amiss on the dialogue between Jarmo and his guys..

This team has passionate fans and a good squad and for my money the best coach in the league, what is going on in contract talks that people are so eager to get out if that is true.

And in no way is PLD a good trade even for Laine +

It really just could be as simple as Bob wanted to live in Florida and Panarin likes the big city. Columbus doesn't have much unique appeal.

As much as the Jets want and need a good center to play behind Scheifele they just traded for Stastny to play with Laine and Ehlers. The Jets also drafted Perfetti to be their #2 center and to play on the top 6 in the near future so trading Laine for a center at this time doesn't make sense. PLD would be a great addition but in 2 years would want a contract similar to what Laine wants so the Jets would then be in the same boat trying to sign him long term.

As much as the Jets want and need a good center to play behind Scheifele they just traded for Stastny to play with Laine and Ehlers. The Jets also drafted Perfetti to be their #2 center and to play on the top 6 in the near future so trading Laine for a center at this time doesn't make sense. PLD would be a great addition but in 2 years would want a contract similar to what Laine wants so the Jets would then be in the same boat trying to sign him long term.
- islansjet

All solid points.. PLD would and is better than anyone they have now or would have in the future. The kid is an absolute stud. But the signing thing is a hurdle to overcome.

Pretty much what he said ^.

Jets don’t need a Center anymore. They NEEDED a centre this season to help convince Laine to extend. But beyond that, Perfetti is likely #2 Center in 2-3 years.

Every time I read Laine Rumors, the consensus is “this couldn’t be 1-for-1... gotta be Laine + (+)!” I’m baffled by how underappreciated Laine is. Yes, his attitude/ego is a bit of a problem. But that’s solved with top line minutes, which also would put him back in the 40+G club. He started playing a better defensive game and uses his size better when Maurice ruined his game by not allowing him to shoot at full power due to Hellebuyck sustaining bruises. Big dog’s gotta eat, and a sniper’s gotta shoot. Winnipeg having a crappy appeal makes it difficult to retain guys. And I think Maurice is only still here because he’s actually willing to live here! I don’t think he’s a great coach, he’s mismanaged a top talent, and he refuses to change his approach when it’s not working. Jets were one of the worst teams in the league in the second half of 2018/19... and it was not surprise to watch them get bounced in round one. Give this team a new voice behind the bench and things change for the better. Maurice got saved last year losing so many D. The expectations were extremely low, so he got to play with house money.

I would stay clear of Laine. Don’t think he has the work ethic to ever realize his potential

If this blogger is going to give reasoned and rational thought to trade rumours he will no longer be welcome on HB

Number 1 centres are hard to find.
Montreal, Ottawa, Anaheim, San Jose, Detroit to name a few teams that don't really have one will never win anything.
That would be a terrible trade to give up Dubois for Laine. There would have to be a significant add IMO if Dubois really wants out.

If Dubois as to be traded, it could be Dubois for Kotkaniemi and a tier 2 prospect. Center for center, Kotkaniemi is cheaper for now and he would be a good fit with Columbus' gm. Montreal would finally get their French Canadian top line player

I would love to have Dubois in St Louis. GM Armstrong is not afraid to make bold moves. Would a deal for Robert Thomas and Jaden Schwartz work.? If need maybe add Jordan Kyrou. From St Louis point of view thats alot, but players like Dubois you have to step up. Jacket fans, what do you think ?

Pretty much what he said ^.

Jets don’t need a Center anymore. They NEEDED a centre this season to help convince Laine to extend. But beyond that, Perfetti is likely #2 Center in 2-3 years.

Every time I read Laine Rumors, the consensus is “this couldn’t be 1-for-1... gotta be Laine + (+)!” I’m baffled by how underappreciated Laine is. Yes, his attitude/ego is a bit of a problem. But that’s solved with top line minutes, which also would put him back in the 40+G club. He started playing a better defensive game and uses his size better when Maurice ruined his game by not allowing him to shoot at full power due to Hellebuyck sustaining bruises. Big dog’s gotta eat, and a sniper’s gotta shoot. Winnipeg having a crappy appeal makes it difficult to retain guys. And I think Maurice is only still here because he’s actually willing to live here! I don’t think he’s a great coach, he’s mismanaged a top talent, and he refuses to change his approach when it’s not working. Jets were one of the worst teams in the league in the second half of 2018/19... and it was not surprise to watch them get bounced in round one. Give this team a new voice behind the bench and things change for the better. Maurice got saved last year losing so many D. The expectations were extremely low, so he got to play with house money.
- Burnt_juice

Good points here, I completely agree, Maurice is really never changing, until he's gone I don't think the Jets will progress, I expect this season is gonna go like any other, could add a stud blueliner or two and it still wouldn't make enough of a difference, nothing is changing until there's a new head coach behind the bench.
Also think all the disgruntled Jets are due to Maurice and his catering to Wheeler.

so yeah , media is saying PLD asked for a trade, Dubois is nor confirming or denying, this begs the question, is it the coach or the city , this is just a mass exodus...

Curious if Columbus (fans) have interest is Roslovic? He’s probably at best a second line (more accurately middle six) Center, bug mot far off from it. He needs somewhere to be given the opportunity... drastic example of this being William Karlsson going to Vegas.

Anyhow, most non-Jets fans will not know Roslovic well enough because his stats don’t looks great without considering there’s 0 power play time and mainly 3rd/4th line minutes. But if Dubios wants a trade, and Roslovic is IN COLUMBUS at home waiting for a trade (no quarantine period would be required)... maybe there’s something worth exploring. Jets would need to add more for sure... maybe a non-protected first rounder? Or a D prospect and lesser pick?

Curious if Columbus (fans) have interest is Roslovic? He’s probably at best a second line (more accurately middle six) Center, bug mot far off from it. He needs somewhere to be given the opportunity... drastic example of this being William Karlsson going to Vegas.

Anyhow, most non-Jets fans will not know Roslovic well enough because his stats don’t looks great without considering there’s 0 power play time and mainly 3rd/4th line minutes. But if Dubios wants a trade, and Roslovic is IN COLUMBUS at home waiting for a trade (no quarantine period would be required)... maybe there’s something worth exploring. Jets would need to add more for sure... maybe a non-protected first rounder? Or a D prospect and lesser pick?

Maybe Ehlers + 1st rnd pick.

It really just could be as simple as Bob wanted to live in Florida and Panarin likes the big city. Columbus doesn't have much unique appeal.
- Blackstrom2

I mean, there's New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Miami, Las Vegas... And then every other city in the United States.

Columbus has about as much appeal as any, and it's actually a pretty big and diverse place, with a central location.

Pray tell what cities have such a unique appeal in 2020 when everything is a glorified strip mall or a soon-to-be ghost town?

I mean, there's New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Miami, Las Vegas... And then every other city in the United States.

Columbus has about as much appeal as any, and it's actually a pretty big and diverse place, with a central location.

Pray tell what cities have such a unique appeal in 2020 when everything is a glorified strip mall or a soon-to-be ghost town?
- 3rd GM's the charm

I mean, you named the two cities where they went, so I'm not really understanding your point here. It could have been something as simple as Panarin wanting to live in NYC or Bob wanting to live in Florida.

Curious if Columbus (fans) have interest is Roslovic? He’s probably at best a second line (more accurately middle six) Center, bug mot far off from it. He needs somewhere to be given the opportunity... drastic example of this being William Karlsson going to Vegas.

Anyhow, most non-Jets fans will not know Roslovic well enough because his stats don’t looks great without considering there’s 0 power play time and mainly 3rd/4th line minutes. But if Dubios wants a trade, and Roslovic is IN COLUMBUS at home waiting for a trade (no quarantine period would be required)... maybe there’s something worth exploring. Jets would need to add more for sure... maybe a non-protected first rounder? Or a D prospect and lesser pick?

Maybe Ehlers + 1st rnd pick.
- birdie03

Gawd no, no way we're trading Ehlers and a 1st for Dubois.

Gawd no, no way we're trading Ehlers and a 1st for Dubois.
- JetFuel

LOL !!! So you want us to give you DuBois, a 22 y.o. 1C with 4 yrs of team control, for your dregs and misfits.

Go suck a big one . . . !!

I mean, you named the two cities where they went, so I'm not really understanding your point here. It could have been something as simple as Panarin wanting to live in NYC or Bob wanting to live in Florida.
- Blackstrom2

No, that's exactly what it was. My response was more because of you saying Columbus doesn't have much unique appeal - As if that's it's defining trait. My point was, that outside of maybe 5 US cities, there really isn't much unique appeal anywhere.

Columbus is actually very large by US city standards, especially for a city above the Mason-Dixon line. It's very under-the-radar and low-key, and it's pretty diverse. There's a lot of development, a lot of jobs (again, both unique for a "Northern" city), and something like 60% of all Americans live within 600 miles of Columbus.

I mean, the information is there if you want to look at it but if Columbus is "plain" it's actually about as interesting and fascinating as "plain" could be. And compared to a lot of other dump cities in America, it could be much, much worse.

So yeah, for a 20-something year old multi-millionaire leftist from Russia, New York City is super appealing. Hell, for anyone who can actually afford to live in NYC, of course it's appealing. It's by far the largest and most diverse, un-American "American" city in the United States. It's an anomaly by US standards. But it's an expensive, stinky concrete jungle that's borderline unlivable unless you're making 150k per year, minimum and even then, you wouldn't get to enjoy much of it because you'd basically just be paying to love there.

And for a cheesy Russian chav, like Bobrovsky, Miami is super appealing because they're literally from the friggin' Tundra and Siberia and they're the cheesiest of cheese potato-people. !0 million per year? Sure, anywhere is awesome when you make 10 million per year.

But as far as normal people goes? Yeah, you're sleeping pretty hard on Columbus.

LOL !!! So you want us to give you DuBois, a 22 y.o. 1C with 4 yrs of team control, for your dregs and misfits.

Go suck a big one . . . !!
- birdie03

Get a life, not trading Ehlers with 5 years of term on a great value contract and a 1st for Dubois, keep him!!

Get a life, not trading Ehlers with 5 years of term on a great value contract and a 1st for Dubois, keep him!!
- JetFuel

Hmm
In an ideal situation Laine and Roslovic is what would make the most sense , I can see Roslovic playing second banana behind Domi.

Hmm
In an ideal situation Laine and Roslovic is what would make the most sense , I can see Roslovic playing second banana behind Domi.
- Alexzanki

Yeah - maybe this trade. But only if Laine signs a new contract. If I understand the RFA rules -(27 y.o. OR 7 yrs in the NHL) he's under team control for only 2 years after this one.

We can discuss this all we want - but I'd be surprised if Jarmo pulls the trigger before this summer. He's going to try to convince PLD to stay a Jacket long term. So it will probably be nothing until summer 2022 (end of current contract).

If this blogger is going to give reasoned and rational thought to trade rumours he will no longer be welcome on HB
- Hardbalz

I'll try to avoid this in the future I know this has not place here...apologies.